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Post by viewer on Sept 28, 2005 13:55:10 GMT -5
Well there is an increasing amount of stations in the US that are becoming generically branded... ie) Boston's WB, FOX Toledo, UPN New Orleans, UPN Philadelphia, ABC Action News Tampa, CBS Detroit.... Both CTV & Global seem to be doing the same thing with the branding on their Stations. I prefer local stations to have their historic names (ie CFRN not just CTV-Edmonton) As far as the U.S. TV stations as far as I know only new York, Chicago & L.A. have O&Os & those have the networks name front & center. The other markets ie Seattle, San Fran the stations are strictly affiliates owned by various companies, so the networks have no say in how the Station brands it's self. ;D
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Post by Derek on Sept 28, 2005 15:47:49 GMT -5
As far as the U.S. TV stations as far as I know only new York, Chicago & L.A. have O&Os & those have the networks name front & center. The other markets ie Seattle, San Fran the stations are strictly affiliates owned by various companies, so the networks have no say in how the Station brands it's self. ;D Not quite... ABC, NBC and CBS all have O&Os in the Bay Area, and they all follow network branding (KGO: ABC 7, KPIX: CBS 5, KNTV: NBC 11). They also have O&Os in many more markets (CBS has one in Green Bay, for crying out loud). And most O&Os do follow network branding, either network + channel # (eg. ABC 7), or the less popular network + location (eg. CBS Detroit). CBS does still have a few O&Os that don't follow network branding, but even that number's rapidly diminishing (KYW rebranded to "CBS 3", WBZ rebranded to "CBS 4", etc.). My point is, network branding does happen in the States. It's just less noticible since they have fewer O&Os (and affiliates that choose to adopt network branding) in proportion to the total number of stations.
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Post by viewer on Sept 28, 2005 16:03:11 GMT -5
Canadians stations are phasing them out. Within the next decade, they will probably be no station referring to themselves by call letters. This is Canada.
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Post by tvedm on Sept 28, 2005 17:16:02 GMT -5
News Updates as of today are
CTV News.
Stayed tuned at Six!
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Post by TRENT310 on Sept 28, 2005 17:23:37 GMT -5
I will!
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Post by TRENT310 on Sept 28, 2005 17:26:14 GMT -5
Hey, what the.... My VCR decoded this on XDS just right now at 4:25PM: Now how does that work, and what does it mean?
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Post by tvedm on Sept 28, 2005 17:59:01 GMT -5
I am very confused.. after i saw another news update that said CFRN News Update instead of the CTV News Update a few mins ago? hmmm someone accidently put the wrong tape i guess?? but anyways it still confirms its happening
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Post by viewer on Sept 28, 2005 18:52:04 GMT -5
Trent, can you record CFRN... er... CTV NEws tonight and capture the opener?
Thx
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Post by TRENT310 on Sept 28, 2005 19:00:51 GMT -5
Still CFRN right now. 5:59
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Post by TRENT310 on Sept 28, 2005 19:31:13 GMT -5
6:29
Still CFRN.
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Post by BCTVforever on Sept 28, 2005 19:44:12 GMT -5
Well there is an increasing amount of stations in the US that are becoming generically branded... ie) Boston's WB, FOX Toledo, UPN New Orleans, UPN Philadelphia, ABC Action News Tampa, CBS Detroit.... They do still have the call letters stated hourly (simply because they are required to by the FCC), but some stations do a good job of displaying them. WFLD 32 in Chicago is known as FOX Chicago, but their ID at the opening to FOX News at 10 has a giant 3D "WFLD". Recently, CBS Detroit began airing IDs that had the calls more prominently displayed and more integrated with the logo - theirs says "WWJ-TV62/DT 44" - with a voiceover stating "WWJ TV 62". The calls lately have been known to show up on bugs. It tends to be UHF stations that do this - FOX in Chicago and New York are both O&Os, but WNYW New York is known as FOX 5. The best example of a generically branded station in the United States is the FOX mini-network in North Dakota and Western Minnesota, consisting of four stations (one is KNRR, another is KBRR) and I believe several translators. It is known just as "FOX", no city. At the worst, CFRN should call themselves CTV 3, and display calls hourly. At least it has a hint of local branding.
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Post by viewer on Sept 28, 2005 20:13:03 GMT -5
Hey, what the.... My VCR decoded this on XDS just right now at 4:25PM: Now how does that work, and what does it mean? Its embeded in the signal. I'm not fond of it. I turned off VCR display.
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Post by viewer on Sept 29, 2005 12:39:58 GMT -5
But still, just because they HAVE TO show the call letters every hour doesn't mean the staff, promos, or newscasts call themselves by the call sign. If you look at the promos, the website, and the newscast for (let's say...) WFLD, they call themselves "Fox Chicago" or "Fox News Chicago", not WFLD News. Maybe you should consider yourself lucky that you're not in a place like Australia where there little to no local presence for these television stations... it's all generic branding and MAYBE 30 minute newscast for your region somewhere in the schedule - depending on if it's live or not. Well there is an increasing amount of stations in the US that are becoming generically branded... ie) Boston's WB, FOX Toledo, UPN New Orleans, UPN Philadelphia, ABC Action News Tampa, CBS Detroit.... They do still have the call letters stated hourly (simply because they are required to by the FCC), but some stations do a good job of displaying them. WFLD 32 in Chicago is known as FOX Chicago, but their ID at the opening to FOX News at 10 has a giant 3D "WFLD". Recently, CBS Detroit began airing IDs that had the calls more prominently displayed and more integrated with the logo - theirs says "WWJ-TV62/DT 44" - with a voiceover stating "WWJ TV 62". The calls lately have been known to show up on bugs. It tends to be UHF stations that do this - FOX in Chicago and New York are both O&Os, but WNYW New York is known as FOX 5. The best example of a generically branded station in the United States is the FOX mini-network in North Dakota and Western Minnesota, consisting of four stations (one is KNRR, another is KBRR) and I believe several translators. It is known just as "FOX", no city. At the worst, CFRN should call themselves CTV 3, and display calls hourly. At least it has a hint of local branding.
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Post by TRENT310 on Sept 29, 2005 21:30:15 GMT -5
Its embeded in the signal. I'm not fond of it. I turned off VCR display. [/quote] No, I don't mean what the OSD Chip is - (i've snipped it on most of my VCRs to disable it if it can't already be turned off) but I was wondering what the TEXT meant. 'CFCN New at Noon' isn't very descriptive either.
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Post by viewer on Oct 1, 2005 13:26:03 GMT -5
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